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#1 Miller V Jackson

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Posted 20 February 2006 - 09:25 PM

Day 1

Weight: 81.8kg (!)
Cigarettes: 0
Standard drinks: 1 (and counting).

Twas one of the hottest and most sleepless nights of the year last night, so when the alarm when off for my 6.30am run I threw it across the room.

Fortunately the female solicitor I was up against in court this morning had been through a similar experience, so that gave us something to talk about over coffee whilst I stared at her breasts. When you factor in the pie I had for lunch, it all had the beginnings of the worst start to an exercise programme in human history.

However, with work out the way I went in search of a set of scales and found some super-dooper ones for a whopping $150. I was feeling lighter already, if only in the wallet department.

Starting weight: 81.8 kg.  Fuck me, when I left school 10 years ago I was a touch under 53 kg and didn't gain a gram until I started work. So there is work to do my friends. Target weight, ideally 68kg but I'll take 70 for sure. Actually 81.8kg scared the shit out of me.

Also the body fat monitor reading I took had me clinically dead, so I'm going to try re-calibrating it tomorrow.

Anyhow, a 30 minute session on the exercycle was it for me tonight, followed by a kangaroo steak for dinner. Someone told me kangaroo's one of the lowest fat meats you can eat, so if anyone can confirm or deny that I'd be grateful.

Tomorrow's target is a run in the morning and a bike session in the evening. 
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Posted 20 February 2006 - 09:45 PM

Roo and Emu both low fat - like venison. Grill or pan fry with no oil, deglaze the pan with some Banrock (as of course you won't be drinking it :angel:) and a *nice* salad.

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Posted 20 February 2006 - 09:53 PM

Cheers, I assume I can take such tips from someone called Dogmeat  :happy: :happy:

I should add that I walk 25 minutes each way to work, and have for nearly 5 years. Fat lot of good it does me! I'm thinking of starting to run home (can't really run to work because we don't have showers).

The sticking point is getting my wallet and cellphone home. Jesus that is a piss-weak excuse; MvJ may have to buy a bum-bag!
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Posted 20 February 2006 - 11:51 PM

Walk faster and get a backpack. In the backpack you should put running shoes, shirt and shorts. NTA used to walk home from Macquarie Street to Kirribilli via the SHB once upon a time.

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Posted 20 February 2006 - 11:58 PM

Yeah, I sweat like a pig if I walk faster to work, but it doesn't matter on the way home. I've packed the shorts for tomorrow.

My female opponent today was late to court because of train delays. I asked her where she was coming from and she said Kirribilli. When I pointed out it would have been quicker to walk over the Bridge she asserted that it probably wouldn't have been in five inch heels. Jesus women are soft  :)
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Posted 21 February 2006 - 05:05 PM

Miller V Jackson said:

When I pointed out it would have been quicker to walk over the Bridge she asserted that it probably wouldn't have been in five inch heels. Jesus women are soft  :)

Then you should have offered to let her walk over you in 5 inch heels :twisted:

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Posted 21 February 2006 - 08:26 PM

Day 2

Weight: 81.7kg (100 grams goooonnnne)
Cigarettes: 0
Standard drinks last night: half a cask of Banrock Station

Right, MvJ has powered into day two and is in danger of leaving you blokes crying in his wake. Up at 6.30am this morning for a half hour on the exercycle before heading off to work. Felt good all day, actually.

Then a power-walk home, followed by a pitiful excuse for a run (gone 25 minutes, spent 9 of them running in three stretches). Still, it's progress.

Lunch was noodles and a banana, dinner potato salad and the rest of that kangaroo.

MvJ is exhausted and has taken to sledging his belly.
"It is self-defeating logic, just as the weapons themselves are self-defeating: to compel an ally to accept nuclear weapons against the wishes of that ally is to take the moral position of totalitarianism, which allows for no self-determination, and which is exactly the evil that we are supposed to be fighting against."-- David Lange, Oxford Union Debate, 1 March 1985.

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Posted 21 February 2006 - 08:30 PM

Miller V Jackson said:

Day 2

Weight: 81.7kg (100 grams goooonnnne)
Cigarettes: 0
Standard drinks last night: half a cask of Banrock Station

Right, MvJ has powered into day two and is in danger of leaving you blokes crying in his wake. Up at 6.30am this morning for a half hour on the exercycle before heading off to work. Felt good all day, actually.

Then a power-walk home, followed by a pitiful excuse for a run (gone 25 minutes, spent 9 of them running in three stretches). Still, it's progress.

Lunch was noodles and a banana, dinner potato salad and the rest of that kangaroo.

MvJ is exhausted and has taken to sledging his belly.

Good work, but I'm not so sure it's a good idea to weigh in each day.  Do you make sure you weigh yourself at the same time each day?
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Posted 21 February 2006 - 08:38 PM

Yeah, but do not despair Hooroo, it's tongue in cheek  :happy:

One programme I saw on the telly said it only made sense to weigh yourself every two weeks or something because it fluctuates. But here we are all about equal portions of positivity and insanity  :)
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 08:42 PM

Day 3

Weight: 82.3kg (up 600 grams since yesterday  :nta
Cigarettes: 0
Standard drinks: a third of a cask of wine last night, ish.

MvJ has caned it today. The scales that say I have put on over half a kg in the last 24 hours are going to be thrown off the balcony shortly.

30 minutes on the exercycle before breakfast (toast with honey) and a power-walk to work. Secretaries were delighted to see MvJ enter resplendent in rugby shorts and a sweat-laden All Blacks Club T-Shirt circa 1993.

Lunch of noodles and a ham roll, then power-walked off to the supermarket to get some goodies for lunch tomorrow and Friday.

Power-walked home, then went for basically the same run as last night, but this time I managed to run the first 15 minutes of it, and the last 3, with just a 4 minute walk in the middle. Bloody hell, I feel alive!

Unfortunately, I have to do a presentation about our firm over breakfast tomorrow at 6.50am so the exercycle is out tomorrow morning. I hope they don't have the CueBall Breathalyser at the door.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 08:55 PM

Miller V Jackson said:

Cigarettes: 0

Uncle Miller, unless you are a genuine smoker, there's not really any use in providing that info, is there? :nta

Or have you just given up smoking and need to reiterate the fact to yourself? :)

Good work with your progress BTW. Actually, I'd better not encourage any cyber group hugs here. :grin:
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 09:17 PM

I had a couple of Crusader Corey's industrial strength cancer sticks on Saturday night, and I can still feel the effects.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 10:11 PM

Miller, you might want to restrict your alcohol to just one day a week - otherwise your exercise is a bit of a waste of time.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 10:26 PM

ROFL  :happy:

What it has done though Kirwan is greatly decrease my desire to drink a lot, and the amount I drink. In three days, I reckon my consumption has halved.

I'm just finishing off the week's first cask tonight, and will be in bed within about 40 minutes so perhaps time for only a couple of scotches  :happy: And sleeping like a lamb, or I did last night anyway on only about 3 glasses of Banners.
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 02:16 AM

Miller V Jackson said:

ROFL  :happy:

What it has done though Kirwan is greatly decrease my desire to drink a lot, and the amount I drink. In three days, I reckon my consumption has halved.

I'm just finishing off the week's first cask tonight, and will be in bed within about 40 minutes so perhaps time for only a couple of scotches  :happy: And sleeping like a lamb, or I did last night anyway on only about 3 glasses of Banners.

Pisshead! :)

Seriously, cut it down to one day a week (especially if you are drinking that much) and you see results pretty quick. Think about how much sugar is in alcohol, it's like going for a run and then having a nice relaxing bar of chocolate.
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 10:08 AM

Kirwan said:

Think about how much sugar is in alcohol, it's like going for a run and then having a nice relaxing bar of chocolate.

:) Is red wine that bad though? I thought it was beer that was the killer sugar wise?
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 10:20 AM

Miller V Jackson said:

Kirwan said:

Think about how much sugar is in alcohol, it's like going for a run and then having a nice relaxing bar of chocolate.

:) Is red wine that bad though? I thought it was beer that was the killer sugar wise?

Isn't a glass of wine a night supposed to be good for your heart? Unfortunately, EmmmVeeJay, I don't think you have eight hearts.

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 10:53 AM

Apparently a beer is about 12 mins worth of running. Not sure on wine...
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 10:55 AM

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Successful weight loss is all about oxidizing (or burning), more calories than you eat. When they go on a diet, many people choose low-calorie alcoholic drinks, mainly because they contain fewer alcohol calories than their regular counterparts.

However, drinking too much has a far more damaging effect than you can predict simply by looking at the number of alcohol calories in a drink. Not only does it reduce the number of fat calories you burn, alcohol can increase your appetite and lower your testosterone levels for up to 24 hours after you finish drinking.

Alcohol calories
According to conventional wisdom, the infamous "beer belly" is caused by excess alcohol calories being stored as fat. Yet, less than five percent of the alcohol calories you drink are turned into fat. Rather, the main effect of alcohol is to reduce the amount of fat your body burns for energy.

Some evidence for this comes from research carried in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition [4]. Eight men were given two drinks of vodka and sugar-free lemonade separated by 30 minutes. Each drink contained just under 90 calories. Fat metabolism was measured before and after consumption of the drink. For several hours after drinking the vodka, whole body lipid oxidation (a measure of how much fat your body is burning) dropped by a massive 73%.


Rather than getting stored as fat, the main fate of alcohol is conversion into a substance called acetate. In fact, blood levels of acetate after drinking the vodka were 2.5 times higher than normal. And it appears this sharp rise in acetate puts the brakes on fat loss.

A car engine typically uses only one source of fuel. Your body, on the other hand, draws from a number of different energy sources, such as carbohydrate, fat, and protein. To a certain extent, the source of fuel your body uses is dictated by its availability.

In other words, your body tends to use whatever you feed it. Consequently, when acetate levels rise, your body simply burns more acetate, and less fat. In essence, acetate pushes fat to the back of the queue.

So, to summarize and review, here's what happens to fat metabolism after the odd drink or two.

• A small portion of the alcohol is converted into fat.

• Your liver then converts most of the alcohol into acetate.

• The acetate is then released into your bloodstream, and replaces fat as a source of fuel.

The way your body responds to alcohol is very similar to the way it deals with excess carbohydrate. Although carbohydrate can be converted directly into fat, one of the main effects of overfeeding with carbohydrate is that it simply replaces fat as a source of energy. That's why any type of diet, whether it's high-fat, high-protein, or high-carbohydrate, can lead to a gain in weight.

Appetite
The combination of alcohol and a high-calorie meal is especially fattening, mainly because alcohol acts as a potent appetizer. A Canadian study shows that an aperitif (an alcoholic drink taken before a meal to increase the appetite) increased calorie intake to a greater extent than a carbohydrate-based drink [5].

Researchers from Denmark's Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University report similar results [8]. When a group of men was given a meal and allowed to eat as much as they wanted, they ate more when the meal was served with beer or wine rather than a soft drink.

Not only does too much alcohol put the brakes on fat loss, it's also one of the most effective ways to slash your testosterone levels. Just a single bout of heavy drinking raises levels of the muscle-wasting hormone cortisol and increases the breakdown of testosterone for up to 24 hours [6]. The damaging effects of alcohol on testosterone are made even worse when you exercise before drinking [1].

The effect of alcohol on testosterone could be one reason that people who drink a lot carry less muscle. In fact, a 1993 study shows that alcoholic men have bigger waists and smaller muscles than teetotalers [2].

This doesn't mean you need to avoid alcohol completely.

A recent study, published in the November 2004 issue of the International Journal of Obesity, compared the effect of two different diets over a three-month period [7]. Both diets contained 1500 calories daily, one with 150 calories from white wine and one with 150 calories from grape juice.

Weight loss in the grape juice group and white wine group was 8.3 pounds and 10.4 pounds, respectively.

The bottom line
Although an alcohol-rich meal does increase your metabolic rate, it also suppresses the number of fat calories your body burns for energy — far more so than meals rich in protein, carbohydrate, or fat [3].

While the odd drink now and again isn't going to hurt, the bottom line is that alcohol and a leaner, stronger body just doesn't mix.

This pretty much covers it.

(If you can't be bothered reading it, alcohol makes it harder to lose fat)
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 11:07 AM

Kirwan said:

(If you can't be bothered reading it, alcohol makes it harder to lose fat)

Yikes  :) For harder, read next to impossible. Point taken Kirwan, I will try to cut out Monday-Thursday night drinking to start with.

Apparently drinking also significantly decreases your testosterone levels. I'm not sure about this: I still enjoying my wanking at the moment, but then again I have been feeling a bit camp recently.

If that changes, you'll be the first to know.
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 11:11 AM

* shudder *

I'll let you know how my month of no alcohol goes and if it's worth it (read significant aid to weight loss). I drink pretty much every weekend, and lately during the week too.
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 04:22 PM

Alkies often end up with smaller todgers too because of years of lowered testosterone (so I'm told).

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 05:41 PM

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Alkies often end up with smaller todgers too because of years of lowered testosterone (so I'm told).

aaaaahhhhh, I was wondering why that was happening....

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 08:58 PM

Day 4-- In which Our Hero gets the wobbles

Weight: 82.1 kg
Alcohol: heading in the direction of the scotch

Our Hero got up at fucking cunting 5am to present a breakfast seminar on why clients should come to MvJ for legal advice. Speaking off the cuff I sacrificed information for entertainment. I thought I was fucking hilarious.

Anyway that put paid to any exercycle work this morning, and has left me completely fucking exhausted and not feeling like doing anything this evening. I spent the entire day at work surfing the Fat Busters Forum desperately looking for something to moderate.

So the kangaroo is cooking, and I'm heading for the scotch. But back on the bike tomorrow morning people, don't you worry about that. See you in the other forums shortly  :evil:

Oddly, I have lost 200 grams today.
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Posted 24 February 2006 - 02:26 PM

MvJ - when you get to your goal weight will you then be known as Miller Lite?

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 03:36 PM

Do you ever do any work NTA  :nta

Day 5-- In which Our Hero goes to the pub

Weight: 82.1 kg (still)
Alcohol: heading to the pub

Light day today, 30 minutes on the exercycle before waddling to work and a long lunch. Off to the pub to watch the rugby tonight.

Only two days until the first weigh in and so far I have gained 300 grams for the week  :)
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Posted 24 February 2006 - 03:39 PM

Must be putting on muscle :)

Actually this week I have managed to do about two hours' work. Once again I'm waiting upon idiots to give me information and this time I refuse to chase them - it costs the place no more than usual this way. I also have to design a second storey for my house, arrange a pest inspection, finance, and builders, watch some episodes of Battle Star Galactica without anyone seeing me, and save my energy in order to complete regular exercise and think up new and devious ways to shag my wife.

I'm flat out.

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 03:46 PM

You mentioned a good way to Muss Jr on the other thread Nick ... get her drunk ...
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Posted 24 February 2006 - 03:53 PM

Yeah and she's a bit stressed from the week just gone (Little Aussie having a "phase") so might have to cap off last night's escapades with some red wine tonight... and perhaps I'll dig out the 1977 Vintage Port which it must be said feels like an Angel pissing on your tongue, and then sitting on your face....

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Posted 25 February 2006 - 09:56 AM

Last friday's "final blow out" binge drinking was unfortunately beaten by last night's events, which had me arrive home at 2am after a number of hours in the pub with a mate's hot ex-wife. MvJ, MvJ, MvJ...

I am on the bike, and running today, if it kills me.
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