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Well I really don't know whether to be happy or not. Twice in the last week I have sat down & gone "I am doing a sub 40 minute 10km" (for the first time in ages) & both times I have done a PB 5km & stopped to avoid throwing up 
Never ever thought I would break 19 minutes but then I did genuinely come very very close to chucking in doing so, and after sitting for 5 minutes to get my heart rate down from 180 left the gym very slowly...
Never ever thought I would break 19 minutes but then I did genuinely come very very close to chucking in doing so, and after sitting for 5 minutes to get my heart rate down from 180 left the gym very slowly...
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Posted 01 June 2007 - 09:55 PM
Great effort Mogs! Seriously good time.
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Posted 02 June 2007 - 12:42 AM
Fark thats a big improvment on your old times. Are you doing something different with your technique or are you just rowing more often?
I assume your 10k of 42mins won't stand for much longer..
I assume your 10k of 42mins won't stand for much longer..
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Posted 02 June 2007 - 02:18 AM
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Fark thats a big improvment on your old times. Are you doing something different with your technique or are you just rowing more often?
I assume your 10k of 42mins won't stand for much longer..
I assume your 10k of 42mins won't stand for much longer..
The 42's not a PB, I've done a few 39.40's just not recently. Probably just need to easy off at the 4km mark & coast for 5km or so to break 40 again, rather than carry on flat out & be trashed.
What I've started doing gain lately (well last 2 months) is weights, used to just purely row, hadn't done weights in about 2 years so I guess that'll help as in that time I've been rowing 30 - 50 minutes (usually I just do 10km) 6 days a week, so my fitness is up & now I'm getting a bit more strength too.
More than anything I think its just the fitness.
Basically I'm a shortarse - 5 foot 6, so I'm never going to be fast over a short distance so I've always just tried to do the long stuff but I guess ultimately once you get the fitness up you can go flat out for longer over the short times. Buggered if I know really.
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Posted 05 June 2007 - 02:58 PM
yeah, well done Mog - the trick now is to just put those two PB's together with no break in between them... :coolsmiley:
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Posted 18 June 2007 - 10:10 AM
Ever have one of those rows where it feels 'easy'...??
Rowed twice yesterday at gym, fiurst time in morning, a 30 minute piece, clocked 8,000 which was not too bad - a good 'honest' row I call it - not ball busting, but knowing you have had a decent woprkout.
Anway, then went back in eveniong when Mrs BartMan went to pump, plan to do an easy 5k befre hitting the pools and waiting for Mrs.
That's where the easy kicked in - was cruising along at under 1:50 with no effort, so dug in, and got seasons best time - still 30 seconds outside PB, but was happy. Will have to start digging in and getting some pain under the belt and getting times again.
Rowed twice yesterday at gym, fiurst time in morning, a 30 minute piece, clocked 8,000 which was not too bad - a good 'honest' row I call it - not ball busting, but knowing you have had a decent woprkout.
Anway, then went back in eveniong when Mrs BartMan went to pump, plan to do an easy 5k befre hitting the pools and waiting for Mrs.
That's where the easy kicked in - was cruising along at under 1:50 with no effort, so dug in, and got seasons best time - still 30 seconds outside PB, but was happy. Will have to start digging in and getting some pain under the belt and getting times again.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 01:44 AM
Nothing is easy at the moment, summer has kicked in & its all hard work.
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Using a gym too you realise how important it is to get a rower that has a tight smooth running chain, getting on a shit rower can destroy your whole time. My gym has 2 great ones & 2 someone has fecked the hell out of
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Using a gym too you realise how important it is to get a rower that has a tight smooth running chain, getting on a shit rower can destroy your whole time. My gym has 2 great ones & 2 someone has fecked the hell out of
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Nothing is easy at the moment, summer has kicked in & its all hard work.
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Using a gym too you realise how important it is to get a rower that has a tight smooth running chain, getting on a shit rower can destroy your whole time. My gym has 2 great ones & 2 someone has fecked the hell out of
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Using a gym too you realise how important it is to get a rower that has a tight smooth running chain, getting on a shit rower can destroy your whole time. My gym has 2 great ones & 2 someone has fecked the hell out of
Same at my gym. Got my concept delivered for the weekend, and the difference between that and the ones at the gym is amazing, so smooth.
Now all my crap times are just due my poor fitness
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 06:57 AM
yeah, my 7 million plus metre rower is certainly harder to row on - but a good training machine now - when I hit the gym ones, it is lightning on wheels!! or rollers and spinning wheels things...
Might have to look at upgrading my home rower when finances permit!!
Might have to look at upgrading my home rower when finances permit!!
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yeah, my 7 million plus metre rower is certainly harder to row on - but a good training machine now - when I hit the gym ones, it is lightning on wheels!! or rollers and spinning wheels things...
Might have to look at upgrading my home rower when finances permit!!
Might have to look at upgrading my home rower when finances permit!!
Can you just tighten the chain up on them? Thats always what seems to go
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 12:50 AM
I had a dabble on the rows (Copncept 2) this weekend past. Jeez you buggers are fit!!!
Mt fitness is piss porr after 5 months not being able to run, but looking at your times shows just how much i am unfit!
Am going to start getting involved with this section of the site methinks. Will post piss poor times soon.
Mt fitness is piss porr after 5 months not being able to run, but looking at your times shows just how much i am unfit!
Am going to start getting involved with this section of the site methinks. Will post piss poor times soon.
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 09:11 AM
Yeah Mog, or get a bit of maintenance done on it - that would probably be cheaper!!
Fuller - great for fitness - no impact on your ankles / body.
Instead of that long 40 minute run, do a row. But for your shorters stuff - you still gotta run, get your muscles used to running as well as rowing - but would have to help fitness in general..
Fuller - great for fitness - no impact on your ankles / body.
Instead of that long 40 minute run, do a row. But for your shorters stuff - you still gotta run, get your muscles used to running as well as rowing - but would have to help fitness in general..
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Yeah Mog, or get a bit of maintenance done on it - that would probably be cheaper!!
Fuller - great for fitness - no impact on your ankles / body.
Instead of that long 40 minute run, do a row. But for your shorters stuff - you still gotta run, get your muscles used to running as well as rowing - but would have to help fitness in general..
Fuller - great for fitness - no impact on your ankles / body.
Instead of that long 40 minute run, do a row. But for your shorters stuff - you still gotta run, get your muscles used to running as well as rowing - but would have to help fitness in general..
All I do is row & bike, I played touch the other night, did a sprint & my quad totally seized up. Realised I probably haven't run in a year. Everyone went "yeah, YOU'RE fit you broken muppet". It was not good.
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Mt fitness is piss porr after 5 months not being able to run, but looking at your times shows just how much i am unfit!
Its really all in the rhythm eh, its very similar to swiming, if you get the action right & smooth you can just cruise along, if you action is all over the place its pretty much impossible, most people give it up without ever getting the action right, timing knees & hands so they don't colide or worse so you have to do some weird camel hump in the stroke REALLY seems to throw people
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 11:29 PM
Good advice as always boys. Will try it out on Sat, or maybe after a chest session this evening.
I promise to put up my time no matter how feckin shite.
I promise to put up my time no matter how feckin shite.
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 09:15 PM
Uhhhh i promised to put up a time for the 5km today....but i didn';t make it to teh finish line. I did it Sat after a shoulder/back weights session which might not have been the brightest thing to do.
However i only managed around 2.5km.
You guys are fit hombres!
However i only managed around 2.5km.
You guys are fit hombres!
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 09:03 PM
19:01.6
Yes, 1.6 seconds off getting under 19 minutes for only the 3rd time ever :cry:
Got 300m out & was doing 1:46 & just needed that to hit 18:58 & then realised I was going to pass out if I didn't ease off. Never a good look.
Yes, 1.6 seconds off getting under 19 minutes for only the 3rd time ever :cry:
Got 300m out & was doing 1:46 & just needed that to hit 18:58 & then realised I was going to pass out if I didn't ease off. Never a good look.
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Posted 10 September 2007 - 11:40 AM
lol, go for the pass out
Well done!
Well done!
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 08:14 PM
Just home from 19:51.2 - my first under 20 min. I tried something different - upped the rating, slightly shorter stroke, went harder 1st half (all the things you guys suggested elsewhere) and it worked. Slightly stuffed though, but I am 40!! 
And 2 weeks.
And 2 weeks.
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 08:56 PM
Well done! Always good to get under the 'industry standard'!!
Try a few 6km pieces, it is amazing how quick you will get to 5k on the way to the 6. and when you sit to go for a 5k time, you will have much more in the tank as you go into that last 1000m.
Probably.....
Try a few 6km pieces, it is amazing how quick you will get to 5k on the way to the 6. and when you sit to go for a 5k time, you will have much more in the tank as you go into that last 1000m.
Probably.....
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Well done! Always good to get under the 'industry standard'!!
Try a few 6km pieces, it is amazing how quick you will get to 5k on the way to the 6. and when you sit to go for a 5k time, you will have much more in the tank as you go into that last 1000m.
Try a few 6km pieces, it is amazing how quick you will get to 5k on the way to the 6. and when you sit to go for a 5k time, you will have much more in the tank as you go into that last 1000m.
Yeah that does work a treat, you get used to doing even fairly slow 30 minutes or 10kms or 8kms & then you go back & do a 5km & kick the crap out of your PB
Top work getting under 20 mins, even better on the new C2's because they have the memory on them & in a gym you can look & mentally section yourself off from everyone else, sod all people do sub 20min 5k's.
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Posted 14 October 2007 - 11:43 PM
Forgot to post this 2 weeks ago - 19:45.7 for the 5k. Since had bronchitis 
Not game to take the beast on again yet.
Oct 2nd to be precise.
Not game to take the beast on again yet.Oct 2nd to be precise.
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Forgot to post this 2 weeks ago - 19:45.7 for the 5k. Since had bronchitis Not game to take the beast on again yet.
Oct 2nd to be precise.
Not game to take the beast on again yet.Oct 2nd to be precise.
Thats proper fast, crap timing of the illness tho! I haven't done a decent time in months, blame the cricket, the champions league & the WC, I've been cylcing so I can watch the gym TV instead. Nothing much to watch now....
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Rowers in my gym right in front of TVs (always 1 or 2 on sport, biggest one on music but often a good eyeball anyway!!). Cyclists have to watch us!! Then again, I do that too, as the name suggests. Been out on the road a couple of times since the bronchitis - not pretty, especially when the airways loosen up a bit :icon_puke_l: :icon_puke_r:
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 06:51 PM
Not sure if any of the concept2 forum ferners saw the thread in the sports section the other day but Rob Waddell unofficially broke a world record for the 5km times - 14.59 minutes. An average split of around 1.29m/500m
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 08:14 AM
nope, did not see that, but legend. I don't think I can even get down that low for any amount of time / distance, let alone 5k!!
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17:34.9
there is an online challenge going on at the moment whcih my 'free spirits' team is paret of for 5k rowing. That is my latest effort. Takes 5 rowers to float a boat, three heavy weights, a lightweight man, and a woman.
My time slots me into the second boat. The best time from FS, and second best time over all is 16:24. best time in challenge is 16:16.
These guys are nuts!!
there is an online challenge going on at the moment whcih my 'free spirits' team is paret of for 5k rowing. That is my latest effort. Takes 5 rowers to float a boat, three heavy weights, a lightweight man, and a woman.
My time slots me into the second boat. The best time from FS, and second best time over all is 16:24. best time in challenge is 16:16.
These guys are nuts!!
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hey bart what setting do you row on when doing 5,000 m?
somehow got roped into a surf boat team.. thought it was just for pissing around but the rest of my mates want to do it proper like and apparently we went alright for punters that have never rowed before..
but back to my original question - my mate who's into it (off to to worlds in biarritz, rows for piha) was saying that he rows with the setting on 5.. i thought he'd be yanking it on the highest setting (he's bout 6'5 115kg)
anyway i've been told i need to do a sub 17:30 pronto.. am worried that your best ain't under that time and you do it all the time!
as well as the fact i have no time to get into this rowing lark, as i said i thought we were just going for a blat.. not actually super keen, check out the pic attached from a race at piha this year!
somehow got roped into a surf boat team.. thought it was just for pissing around but the rest of my mates want to do it proper like and apparently we went alright for punters that have never rowed before..
but back to my original question - my mate who's into it (off to to worlds in biarritz, rows for piha) was saying that he rows with the setting on 5.. i thought he'd be yanking it on the highest setting (he's bout 6'5 115kg)
anyway i've been told i need to do a sub 17:30 pronto.. am worried that your best ain't under that time and you do it all the time!
as well as the fact i have no time to get into this rowing lark, as i said i thought we were just going for a blat.. not actually super keen, check out the pic attached from a race at piha this year!
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 09:44 AM
Think my PB is 17:20, managed a 17:22 a month or so ago, but is murder to get down to those times - A good hard row is the 18 minute mark, like going for a run when you are not cruising, but not going all out either - just a good hard training!
When going for those sorts of times I row on a setting of 4 - read somewhere that is the 'on the water' setting. But when I first was rowing was always on 10, and was only a few seconds outside those sorts of times even then - as in 20 seconds, so maybe quite a few!!
Something to practise on longer rows is keep your rate down - 20-24 SPM, but keep the pace at your normal pace. So when you increase the SPM back to your normal (for me between 28-30), you fly!!
But being a taller bigger bloke, you will probably row comfy with a slower SPM than me anyway, being a short arse.
When going for those sorts of times I row on a setting of 4 - read somewhere that is the 'on the water' setting. But when I first was rowing was always on 10, and was only a few seconds outside those sorts of times even then - as in 20 seconds, so maybe quite a few!!
Something to practise on longer rows is keep your rate down - 20-24 SPM, but keep the pace at your normal pace. So when you increase the SPM back to your normal (for me between 28-30), you fly!!
But being a taller bigger bloke, you will probably row comfy with a slower SPM than me anyway, being a short arse.
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sweet cheers i'll give it a nudge.. just joined the gym again.. took a while, hated the thought of having to pay after getting a free membership with my last job..
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