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[Canes4life]

Does anyone know when the transfers for next seasons super 14 are being announced. I know that Mackintosh is announcing that he is heading to the Canes this week.

[ploughboy]

by the16th

[globetrotter]

Canes4life said:

Does anyone know when the transfers for next seasons super 14 are being announced. I know that Mackintosh is announcing that he is heading to the Canes this week.

Zac Guildford to Canterbury (Crusaders)

Colin Bourke to Auckland (Blues)

Ant Boric to Waikato (Chiefs)

Quentin McDonald to Otago (Highlanders)

Paul Perez to Otago (Highlanders)

Josh Beklaus to Auckland (Blues)

Matt Berquist to Auckland (Blues)

Karl Lowe to Auckland (Blues)

[Southern Man]

That would suit everyone involved, although you forgot Israel Dagg to Otago which is getting close to being a done deal.

[Kirwan]

I'll take Berquist and Bourke thank you very much. Not much difference between Berquist and Delany and Bourke is in great form.

[Nepia]

Kirwan said:

I'll take Berquist and Bourke thank you very much. Not much difference between Berquist and Delany and Bourke is in great form.

No love for Karl Lowe even though you have no clear contenders at 7? No worries I expect him to have surpassed Waldrom at the Canes next S14.

[Kirwan]

Nepia said:

Kirwan said:

I'll take Berquist and Bourke thank you very much. Not much difference between Berquist and Delany and Bourke is in great form.

No love for Karl Lowe even though you have no clear contenders at 7? No worries I expect him to have surpassed Waldrom at the Canes next S14.

He's fine, I have no problem with him other than I remember that stupid punch he did. We don't need another Tipoki.

[Nepia]

Kirwan said:

Nepia said:

Kirwan said:

I'll take Berquist and Bourke thank you very much. Not much difference between Berquist and Delany and Bourke is in great form.

No love for Karl Lowe even though you have no clear contenders at 7? No worries I expect him to have surpassed Waldrom at the Canes next S14.

He's fine, I have no problem with him other than I remember that stupid punch he did. We don't need another Tipoki.

Punch? What game, or was it at Pa Wars?

[Red Beard]

Does anyone know which of these blokes will be loaned back to their provinces for NPC or are some permanent transfers? Looks like their will be a four way battle for two hooking spots at the Highlanders, four good rakes there. Is Josh Beklaus really Josh Bekhuis or another player completely? Surprised Bekhuis is on the move, I thought he and Donnelly would be an outstanding combo.

[Kirwan]

Nepia said:

Kirwan said:

Nepia said:

Kirwan said:

I'll take Berquist and Bourke thank you very much. Not much difference between Berquist and Delany and Bourke is in great form.

No love for Karl Lowe even though you have no clear contenders at 7? No worries I expect him to have surpassed Waldrom at the Canes next S14.

He's fine, I have no problem with him other than I remember that stupid punch he did. We don't need another Tipoki.

Punch? What game, or was it at Pa Wars?

It was last years NPC I think, all I remember was that it was in back play and pretty dirty. Been luke warm on him ever since.

[Kirwan]

Fuck, I just noticed Boric has gone to the Chiefs. Dammit.

[Nepia]

Hmmm, I can't remember it.

Are these all confirmed movements or globetrotters wish list?

[Southern Man]

Pretty sure it's a wish lost, I think we would of heard of these moves if they had been signed and sealed.

[globetrotter]

Southern Man said:

Pretty sure it's a wish lost, I think we would of heard of these moves if they had been signed and sealed.

Yeah it is but I expect some to become reality.

I mean Lowe - a chance to wear the 7 every week for Blues. Why not?

Berquist - won't be anywhere near the Canes. His time at Highlanders must be over with Dickson/Witt/robinson/Wilson all options

Perez - would be great in the Landers outside backs.

[Kirwan]

globetrotter said:

Southern Man said:

Pretty sure it's a wish lost, I think we would of heard of these moves if they had been signed and sealed.

Yeah it is but I expect some to become reality.

I mean Lowe - a chance to wear the 7 every week for Blues. Why not?

Berquist - won't be anywhere near the Canes. His time at Highlanders must be over with Dickson/Witt/robinson/Wilson all options

Perez - would be great in the Landers outside backs.

Damn you! I thought it was the official list....

[KiwiMurph]

That worked out very well for the Blues!

As much as I rate Boric - hes probably better served with the Chiefs who could use a bit of help in the tight five. Plus we get Bekhius who is a bit of a gun.

Berquist is a handy player as well - since hes probably the only genuine 10 in the squad (Someone like Moeke/Botica will probably be in the wider squad) he should get a fair crack.

While Karl Lowe probably isnt a genuine scavenger at 7 hes a huge upgrade over OTA and plays a similar role to Blackie which should suit.

I rate Colin Bourke but don't the Blues have plenty of 8s? Sa'ili/Lowrey/Kaino?

[rocket]

It's most likely that Boric will stay with the Blues.

[Nepia]

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While Karl Lowe probably isnt a genuine scavenger at 7 hes a huge upgrade over OTA and plays a similar role to Blackie which should suit.

I assume you haven't watched any Hawkes Bay games - that is precisely what he is, oh and he can bust tackles when he runs.

[stoli]

Last night on the news it was reported that the Blues were going to stump up cash to keep Boric and Woodcock in the region and playing for Harbour.

So I expect that there will be no move by Boric to the Chiefs

[Baron Silas Greenback]

I agree with Kirwan, the Blues wouldnt lose much in having Berquist instead of Delany.
Delany would have been better for the Blues, but Burquist is still streets ahead of the other Blues options at the moment (including Brett)
Not sure Bourke would be a good 'fit' with the Blues.

[BOPRED]

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Israel Dagg is keeping tightlipped as to who he will sign with for the 2010 Super 14 season.

The Hawke's Bay fullback has been strongly linked to the Crusaders after playing for the Highlanders in 2009 and says he will make a decision on his playing future on Friday.

The 21 year old says he still has to talk to a couple more people before he puts pen to paper but whoever he signs for, he will continue to play for Hawke's Bay in the Air New Zealand Cup. He says he would not want to play for any other province so he will definitely be back with Hawke's Bay in 2010.

The Crusaders have already signed Dagg's Magpies team-mate Zac Guildford.

All Air New Zealand Cup transfers have to be completed by Friday the 16th.

[Chiefy]

Why would Karl Lowe leave the Hurricanes? From memory he only dropped out of the team due to injury and played well enough to make the JABs. He would have to have rocks in his head to go to a franchise that has been underperforming. Also I can't see why the Blues would chase him with Mckenty/Blackie available and Chamberlain and Patterson waiting in the wings.

Bourke would be more of an option. Lowery looked OK last season for the Blues but is young and been injury prone, Ma'afu looks handy but still raw and Cameron Eyre is a very tidy, intelligent 8 but probably lacks the bulk for Super Rugby. And I think those are the 3 best in the franchise at the moment.

Berquist with one of Bowden/Munro/Moeke as backup 10 would be good. As much as I think Bowden is a 12 not a 10, I think if he makes the Blues it will be as a 10 because he is not as good as McAllister and Benson Stanley at 12.

Just quietly, even though he is contracted to Canterbury, I wouldn't be surprised to Bronson Murray head back North to the Blues in the draft.

[Duluth]

Chiefy said:

Bourke would be more of an option. Lowery looked OK last season for the Blues but is young and been injury prone, Ma'afu looks handy but still raw and Cameron Eyre is a very tidy, intelligent 8 but probably lacks the bulk for Super Rugby. And I think those are the 3 best in the franchise at the moment.

I think Saili looks better than all of them

I expect Lowery, Ma'afu and Saili to make the squad. Maybe not all in the initial protected group

Chiefy said:

Berquist with one of Bowden/Munro/Moeke as backup 10 would be good. As much as I think Bowden is a 12 not a 10, I think if he makes the Blues it will be as a 10 because he is not as good as McAllister and Benson Stanley at 12.

This Berquist talk is just strange. Someone mentioned it on the fern and now it's being talked about as likely?

Bowden is a certainty because he has already performed at this level. Munro however.. would Lam gamble on him again after being let down so many times before?

Moeke could be worth the investment, but I wouldn't be dissapointed if he was left out for another year. His form has not been as good as it was earlier in the season.

The NZRFU meeting with the S14 coaches prior to the draft could be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if the Crusaders were asked to release a 10 in return for one of the Blues outside backs. Otherwise All Blacks/JABs will be sitting on the bench or even outside the 22

[Chris B.]

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The NZRFU meeting with the S14 coaches prior to the draft could be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if the Crusaders were asked to release a 10 in return for one of the Blues outside backs. Otherwise All Blacks/JABs will be sitting on the bench or even outside the 22

I'd take Toeava for Brett.

Dagg is being reported as close to signing for the Crusaders - though he is still to sign a piece of paper. An announcement to be made on Friday.

http://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-news/dagg-close ... re-3050851

[taniwharugby]

I also heard on RS that an announcement with Dagg at Canterbury is still likely, which could mean Payne may be released to the draft, suffering from his own and Northland's form.

Unless Blackie has totally renegged on his deal with Auckland, I cant see the Blues chasing Lowe to sit on the bench behind Blackie when they have McKenty, Patterson and Chamberlain, with McKenty in superb form and Chamberlain stepping up as well, Paterson suffering from the real myth that is OTA.

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No love for Karl Lowe even though you have no clear contenders at 7? No worries I expect him to have surpassed Waldrom at the Canes next S14.

pfft

[ploughboy]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/prov ... at-Waikato


interesting bit at the bottom craig clarke signed for waikato and loaned back to the naki

[taniwharugby]

I get the distinct impression the powers that be do not like this 'loan back' trend Canterbury seem to have started, given Tew has made noises about any player being able to sign with whichever franchise wants him, rather than the need to go to the draft or be signed in that Franchise region.

[ACT Crusader]

ploughboy said:

http://www.stuff.co....-put-at-Waikato


interesting bit at the bottom craig clarke signed for waikato and loaned back to the naki

Which is great news for the Chiefs. They need quality locks and I think CC has the goods to become one.

The outcome of Dagg's movement will be interesting. Saders potentially have a back 3 stocks (without Dagg) of Guildford, Poki, Maitland, Slade, Whitelock, and that's without knowing the fate of Payne.

Dagg's manager will be working OT I'd guess, given he would be almost guaranteed starts at FB for the Landers.

[Chiefy]

Duluth said:

Chiefy said:

Bourke would be more of an option. Lowery looked OK last season for the Blues but is young and been injury prone, Ma'afu looks handy but still raw and Cameron Eyre is a very tidy, intelligent 8 but probably lacks the bulk for Super Rugby. And I think those are the 3 best in the franchise at the moment.

I think Saili looks better than all of them

I expect Lowery, Ma'afu and Saili to make the squad. Maybe not all in the initial protected group

Chiefy said:

Berquist with one of Bowden/Munro/Moeke as backup 10 would be good. As much as I think Bowden is a 12 not a 10, I think if he makes the Blues it will be as a 10 because he is not as good as McAllister and Benson Stanley at 12.

This Berquist talk is just strange. Someone mentioned it on the fern and now it's being talked about as likely?

Bowden is a certainty because he has already performed at this level. Munro however.. would Lam gamble on him again after being let down so many times before?

Moeke could be worth the investment, but I wouldn't be dissapointed if he was left out for another year. His form has not been as good as it was earlier in the season.

The NZRFU meeting with the S14 coaches prior to the draft could be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if the Crusaders were asked to release a 10 in return for one of the Blues outside backs. Otherwise All Blacks/JABs will be sitting on the bench or even outside the 22

The trouble Saili has is consistency, not just consistency in his play, but getting a consistent chance to stake the number 8 position as his own. Ma'afu and Eyre have both been very consistent in under performing teams. Ma'afu brings size and aggression, Eyre brings a steady no frills approach which may suit the Blues but I would think lacks the bulk to make the step up. Number 8 is an interesting position for the Blues, alot could depend on the type of game plan Pat Lam wishes to implement, but I would think they have enough depth in the franchise in Ma'afu, Saili, Lowery, Eyre and even Kaino to cover it.

I only mentioned Berquist to comment on the players mentioned earlier in the thread. He does offer a steady option that probably would go well in the Blues team. Personally I think I would show some faith in the young guys, they might not be the next Dan Carter, but hopefully develop into dependable first-fives in the mould of a Berquist or Holwell. They might have to view it slightly long term as well, maybe give them a season to have a go then expect them to kick on 2nd season.

[ploughboy]

the other interesting bit was it left the impression that there are more loan back deals to be announced