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[MN5]

Will Carling - I do have strong views on the All Blacks
allblacks.com - (27/10/2009)
As the All Blacks prepare to tour again, the inevitable question comes around as to how they will do, how good or bad are they and will they win the next World Cup?



I don't bloody know!!!

Visit Will's site - http://www.RuckU.com & follow him on twitter.com/willcarling

But, I do have strong views on the All Blacks, probably more so than any other team apart from England of course! Why? For many reasons actually, and I shall try to explain;

When I was much younger the rugby book that made the most impact on me was Graham Mourie's book, firstly because in those days there was a mystique and aura that surrounded the All Black's, more than any other side and secondly I was fascinated at some of his comments on captaincy and his fights with those in charge (I was only a school captain at the time but was desperately trying to get better!!)

The aura etc was due to the infrequency that we ever saw the All Blacks and down to the basic colour of the playing kit - it all induced that reputation of tough, uncompromising warriors.

I remember watching the likes of Shelford, Jones, Kirwan and Stanley and being very in awe as well as bloody terrified!

My own career stumbled along and somehow I managed to get picked for England - desperation makes selectors do very strange things!

And during my early years I was actually fit enough for the Barbarians to pick me to play in the Hong Kong 7's. Here I met my first All Blacks, and what a contrast they were. Eric Rush and Zinzan Brooke!

Eric constantly played a crazy game, based on making stupid noises and raising eye brows - he was world class at it, but over three days bloody drove me crazy! Zinny was just this class act on the pitch, we lost to them in the semi-final, and some demi-god off it!

We happened to bump into the All Black's on the Sunday lunch time, a few hours before flying home that night, as we were all drinking in the same bar. Towards the end of the session, I was standing at the bar, avoiding buying my round no doubt, when Zinny stood next to me and grabbed my shirt! Quite forward in my book, especially when he is just not my type (he has black hair for starters!!) Anyway I put up with his grip for a few minutes, because he is quite a big guy and then slowly prised his fingers off me, at which point he just collapsed! He has since claimed that his drinks were spiked, but having been drinking with him far too many times I now know that he is just a light weight!!

It made quite an impression on me, watching the All Blacks, sensing their pride in the shirt, watching a Haka, and witnessing their skill level etc. The next time I encountered them, they beat us in the opening game of the 1991 World Cup.

Craig Innes and Schuster in the middle. I toured New Zealand only once, with the British and Irish Lions, and I say 'toured' in the loosest possible sense of the word, as I was so bloody useless that I spent most of the tour on holiday with the dirt trackers- quite rightly.

Although in true English style, it really got to me and when the All Blacks toured the UK in 1993, we were wound up enough to beat them.

But enough of my boring playing career against them.

They remain the best brand in World rugby, they have marketed the shirt brilliantly, it is still clean, and the aura is still almost as strong.

The tag of World Cup chokers is amusing for en Englishman ( with the rain and the clouds we have to find our amusement in small ways, and trust me I find my amusement in some very small things...) but it is also not accurate in my view. In 1991 the Aussies were the best side in the World, In 1995 the All Blacks were and the defeat in SA was a shock, in 1999 it was the Aussies again and in 2003 it was England, so no issue with those results.

The 2007 defeat was quite easily the most shocking, and the mistakes made just far too blatant and avoidable. Rotation does not work, you have to have a settled side, look at all the winners and see the consistency of selection. It is romantic to think that you win rugby matches by scoring tries, but reality means that in knock out games, you just have to bloody win and you must win! All the hot air about the referee in the Quarter Final is all well and good, but the game was still there to be won, and should still have been one despite the ref's decisions with the territory and possession that the All Blacks had - no excuses.

If we are going to talk about interesting referees, I still think Andre Watson’s interpretation of scrummaging in the 2003 final was horrific and yet Johnson’s men managed to still find a way to win. A lesson that I think the All Blacks have now absorbed.

I am biased as I am an All Black fan bizarrely, but then I have been privileged to have got to know a few of the current players. A couple of years ago my company organised some corporate work for Tana, Richie and Jerry and I spent a week with these guys and was hugely impressed with how they conducted themselves, with their very down to earth approach, their humility and the impact that they had on clients. They were a class act on and off the pitch and I have got to know Dan in a similar way.

So yes, I am biased, but at the same time intrigued to watch the unfolding build up to the next World Cup from a dispassionate view point.

The Boks dominated the Tri-Nations, it was comfortable for them, and for once the All Blacks looked disjointed, vulnerable and at times confused. The return of Carter made a difference, but the Boks are still without doubt the dominant force.

Despite all the PR and wailing by some former All Blacks about having to win every game and the results are just not good enough, I for one think that the last six months might just be the making of New Zealand’s attack for the 2011 World Cup. The defeats will hurt, big time, the criticism burns inside, I know, and it will forge a resolve possible missing in 2007.

It will make coaches and players ask questions that might have been left un-asked on the back of victory, and in the frustration of defeat a team will learn more about the individuals and the team than in the glory of victory, I am not advocating it by the way, far from it, and I am not doing the usual English stiff upper lip approach to losing, I hate that view, but I also do not agree with the view that the All Blacks can dominate World rugby without ever being challenged successfully by other teams. At the moment the South Africans have the upper hand, but the players that give them that edge might well have lost theirs in two years time….

So time for realism and maturity from All Black supporters, and time to ditch the macho view that the All Blacks are and always will be the best side in the world.

For the majority of rugby’s history that is undoubtedly true, but in the professional era, the playing field is shifting and it will be harder and harder for New Zealand to dominate to such an extent.

Sport is cyclical, and the test for the current squad is how they go about regaining the top spot, in time for the 2011 World Cup!
So who will stand up to command the midfield alongside Carter, who will stand up to dominate the line out and who will cement the back row slots alongside McCaw? Will Henry be able to inject enough enthusiasm and difference to safe guard his next few years, or will this tour highlight cracks in the coaching team that can not be ignored? It is the toughest tour that the All Blacks have looked at for a while, due to form and confidence and suddenly even doubt in the coaching set up. So many questions for such a short tour, but I for one believe by the end of this tour we will see whether the All Blacks have the playing quality, leadership on and off the pitch and steel needed to win the World Cup

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I must say this article really pisses me off because Will Carling was one of the first English players I really loved to hate. In this he comes across as a really good guy, extremely humble too ! Bugger, I'm gonna have to remove his name from the list ( Matt Dawson and Austin Healy are still there though, their names are set in stone ) I particularly liked the Zinny story... xzxrofl

[da_grubster]

will is a good guy and does that self depreciating humour down to a T!

It is quite strange feeling that as a young kiwi lad you grow up hating the english rugby captain but when you meet him he is instantly likeable and still has the naughty public schoolboy about him

[BartMan]

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The 2007 defeat was quite easily the most shocking, and the mistakes made just far too blatant and avoidable. Rotation does not work, you have to have a settled side, look at all the winners and see the consistency of selection. It is romantic to think that you win rugby matches by scoring tries, but reality means that in knock out games, you just have to bloody win and you must win! All the hot air about the referee in the Quarter Final is all well and good, but the game was still there to be won, and should still have been one despite the ref's decisions with the territory and possession that the All Blacks had - no excuses.

Can't quibble with a single word in that paragraph can you?

Good story, liked it, and Carling carries on looking like quite a good bugger eh, good on him, keeps this up he won't be having to buy his round when he hits the NZ shores in 2011 either - very clever bugger!

[MN5]

BartMan said:

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The 2007 defeat was quite easily the most shocking, and the mistakes made just far too blatant and avoidable. Rotation does not work, you have to have a settled side, look at all the winners and see the consistency of selection. It is romantic to think that you win rugby matches by scoring tries, but reality means that in knock out games, you just have to bloody win and you must win! All the hot air about the referee in the Quarter Final is all well and good, but the game was still there to be won, and should still have been one despite the ref's decisions with the territory and possession that the All Blacks had - no excuses.

Can't quibble with a single word in that paragraph can you?

Good story, liked it, and Carling carries on looking like quite a good bugger eh, good on him, keeps this up he won't be having to buy his round when he hits the NZ shores in 2011 either - very clever bugger!

Seems pretty genuine though doesn't it Bart ? I suppose it's a lot of the press that make ya dislike the English team. Martin Johnson comes across as a good hard bugger, ditto Dallaglio, Will Greenwood writes some great articles etcetcetc......

I'm sure Healey and Dawson are still arseholes though....

[BartMan]

yeah, I wasn't taking the piss, has written a good piece and seems a good bugger!

[reddog]

Seriously Will Carling is a great bloke. Great sense of humour and quick to get a round in. He was really appreciated by the rugby public in HK at the sevens/10s. A real rugby head in the English sense. Ruck U (him and Zinny and other Rugby Royalty started it) is also a good site and he is also an interesting person to follow on Twitter.

[MN5]

reddog said:

Seriously Will Carling is a great bloke. Great sense of humour and quick to get a round in. He was really appreciated by the rugby public in HK at the sevens/10s. A real rugby head in the English sense. Ruck U (him and Zinny and other Rugby Royalty started it) is also a good site and he is also an interesting person to follow on Twitter.

I always thought he'd be really arrogant but shit ya don't get any more self deprecating than that. The Zinny hair colour quip is a crack up !! I'll tell ya it certainly helps ease the memories of him being held aloft on someones shoulders after they beat us in 1993...

[Kirwan]

He's very good at winding up David Campese, so he can't be all bad.

[Murf]

I would suggest that being held up as the poster boy by the British Rugby media he was always going to struggle to been seen in a good light in NZ. I think having heard him on the odd rugby podcast and read what he has to say he comes across as a good guy, someone who can see the woods for the trees who seems to be a real fan of the game. Its a shame there aren't more experts like him.

[Red Beard]

So the funding provided by the University of Otago to support the "Will Carling is a Fuckwit Club" was all in vain. The old self depreciating humour works like a charm everytime. Well done Will, Im even too scared to call you Bumface on here now.

[jegga]

His article last year were written in a different style [more trying to wind kiwis up, but without being an utter cock like the manatee ]and were just as good.

From what I saw of him in his heyday he was a bloody good rugby player, I wonder how far he would have gone in the game if he was born here?

[mogwai]

jegga said:

From what I saw of him in his heyday he was a bloody good rugby player, I wonder how far he would have gone in the game if he was born here?

He would have been competing with Bernie McCahil for a starting slot so no problem really, he'd have strolled in...

[Cumbrian]

mogwai said:

jegga said:

From what I saw of him in his heyday he was a bloody good rugby player, I wonder how far he would have gone in the game if he was born here?

He would have been competing with Bernie McCahil for a starting slot so no problem really, he'd have strolled in...

I'm English, so don't know the full story on NZ rugby at the time, but I know McCahil was preferred to Little for the 1991 RWC. Carling was not better than Little though (in my opinion) and he'd have struggled to get game time if Little and Bunce were ahead of him - I think eventually Little would have beaten Carling out for the place and, as a result, he'd have been a squad player - or a good club player in NZ. Bernie McCahil could be a good comparison for Carling.

Carling was a good centre for us and benefited from playing with a very strong pack for much of his career, so got some reasonably decent ball. I think he suffers by comparison to the guys who played centre elsewhere at the same time as him though and would have struggled to get much beyond the bench for a number of international sides. In some senses, he was limited - it was well known, that if we wanted to go wide when he played, you had to throw a cut pass beyond him, as his passing was relatively poor.

I'd have Little, Bunce, Jason Little, Horan, Scott Gibbs and Guscott (even though the man is a cock) all ahead of him (granted, some of these are outside centres and Carling played inside) and from memory, he always had his hands full with players like Denis Charvet and Sean Lineen, who would be top of few people's lists of late 80s-early 90s centres.

[MN5]

Cumbrian said:

mogwai said:

jegga said:

From what I saw of him in his heyday he was a bloody good rugby player, I wonder how far he would have gone in the game if he was born here?

He would have been competing with Bernie McCahil for a starting slot so no problem really, he'd have strolled in...

I'm English, so don't know the full story on NZ rugby at the time, but I know McCahil was preferred to Little for the 1991 RWC. Carling was not better than Little though (in my opinion) and he'd have struggled to get game time if Little and Bunce were ahead of him - I think eventually Little would have beaten Carling out for the place and, as a result, he'd have been a squad player - or a good club player in NZ. Bernie McCahil could be a good comparison for Carling.

Carling was a good centre for us and benefited from playing with a very strong pack for much of his career, so got some reasonably decent ball. I think he suffers by comparison to the guys who played centre elsewhere at the same time as him though and would have struggled to get much beyond the bench for a number of international sides. In some senses, he was limited - it was well known, that if we wanted to go wide when he played, you had to throw a cut pass beyond him, as his passing was relatively poor.

I'd have Little, Bunce, Jason Little, Horan, Scott Gibbs and Guscott (even though the man is a cock) all ahead of him (granted, some of these are outside centres and Carling played inside) and from memory, he always had his hands full with players like Denis Charvet and Sean Lineen, who would be top of few people's lists of late 80s-early 90s centres.

He got one awesome try against Wales in 1990 ( on a scotland grand slam video I have somewhere ) where he handed off about 6 guys, pretty impressive. Other than that I think I'd add Scott Hastings to the list of players better than him.

Mind you WC was surely better than Bernie McCahill !

[Rancid Schnitzel]

mogwai said:

jegga said:

From what I saw of him in his heyday he was a bloody good rugby player, I wonder how far he would have gone in the game if he was born here?

He would have been competing with Bernie McCahil for a starting slot so no problem really, he'd have strolled in...

That's a bit harsh. Bernie might have looked ridiculous but he was a class player. He was regularly in the AB squads from 87-91 and thats no mean feat.

I met Will Carling once in Brisbane. Was on the way to Uni and he happened to be waiting at the same crossing. He was more than happy to sign an autograph and was an alround gent. Good bloke that Will.

[BartMan]

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That's a bit harsh. Bernie might have looked ridiculous but he was a class player. He was regularly in the AB squads from 87-91 and thats no mean feat.

Perhaps being in the Auckland squad over that same peroiod of time may have helped a little too eh... Has he been playing for Otago or Wellington in that time, I think he would not have got a look in..

Just my opinion though!

[MN5]

Never hurt Shane Philpotts aspirations Bartman !

I have a mate who told me the story of how he was playing a round of golf and Shane Philpott was just ahead of him in his 91 World Cup kit. This golf game occurred in 2002.....

[Rancid Schnitzel]

BartMan said:

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That's a bit harsh. Bernie might have looked ridiculous but he was a class player. He was regularly in the AB squads from 87-91 and thats no mean feat.

Perhaps being in the Auckland squad over that same peroiod of time may have helped a little too eh... Has he been playing for Otago or Wellington in that time, I think he would not have got a look in..

Just my opinion though!

Gasp! How dare you imply that being in the best provincial team in the world might have helped his chances. It was he who carried them not vice versa dammit. xzxmad John Gallagher played for Wellington and he got selected for the ABs so why not Bernie? xzxsarcastic

Seriously though he wasnt a bad player and always did the job when he wore the silver fern.

[KiwiPie]

BartMan said:

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The 2007 defeat was quite easily the most shocking, and the mistakes made just far too blatant and avoidable. Rotation does not work, you have to have a settled side, look at all the winners and see the consistency of selection. It is romantic to think that you win rugby matches by scoring tries, but reality means that in knock out games, you just have to bloody win and you must win! All the hot air about the referee in the Quarter Final is all well and good, but the game was still there to be won, and should still have been one despite the ref's decisions with the territory and possession that the All Blacks had - no excuses.

Can't quibble with a single word in that paragraph can you?

Yes that is spot on, best summation of the 2007 WC exit I have seen.

[AledforPM]

Yea I always think our views on the English and their approach to Rugby are a bit out of wack.. Its obviously natural for them to be high on the list of favourite teams to watch lose but as has been mentioned, Carling, Johnson, Dallaglio all seem like great guys and very NZish... THey also don't hesitate to credit NZ rugby as influencing them and showing the respect they have for the NZ game..

Think it must just be the old colonial history + English overreactions to any success against us (a sign itself of their respect for the All Blacks) + a few select tabloid rugby journos + that wanker Clive Woodward!

As to the article itself - good points made all-round.. I'm hoping soon NZ fans adjust a little to our new reality and still treat every test as sacred but learn to appreciate that getting beaten by another legit rugby team isn't the end of the All Blacks but is actually good for the game generally if we don't react like spoilt rich kids when daddy refuses us the use of the pony...

I think a timely home WC victory would do wonders to release the massive tension that has built up in NZ rugby.. it might be that if we can get that monkey off our backs the average fan will stop being so paranoid about every loss (as some view it as our only remaining claim to world dominance) and actually enjoy supporting a team that wins 80% of all its matches..

The game is certainly at a crossroads here

[Red Beard]

BartMan said:

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That's a bit harsh. Bernie might have looked ridiculous but he was a class player. He was regularly in the AB squads from 87-91 and thats no mean feat.

Perhaps being in the Auckland squad over that same peroiod of time may have helped a little too eh... Has he been playing for Otago or Wellington in that time, I think he would not have got a look in..

Just my opinion though!

Mine to! If guys like Bernie McCahill, Shayne Philpott, Jason Hewett or Mak Carter were playing for the likes of Southland, Taranaki or King Country they would never have been test All Black. They were selected because of combinations formed with senior All Blacks, not individual merit. even the honourable BJ Lochore selected one of his own Wairarapa Bush prop Robbie McLean for the 1987 tour of Japan, a leftfield call, which reeked of favouritism and bias.

[MN5]

Red Beard said:

BartMan said:

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That's a bit harsh. Bernie might have looked ridiculous but he was a class player. He was regularly in the AB squads from 87-91 and thats no mean feat.

Perhaps being in the Auckland squad over that same peroiod of time may have helped a little too eh... Has he been playing for Otago or Wellington in that time, I think he would not have got a look in..

Just my opinion though!

Mine to! If guys like Bernie McCahill, Shayne Philpott, Jason Hewett or Mak Carter were playing for the likes of Southland, Taranaki or King Country they would never have been test All Black. They were selected because of combinations formed with senior All Blacks, not individual merit. even the honourable BJ Lochore selected one of his own Wairarapa Bush prop Robbie McLean for the 1987 tour of Japan, a leftfield call, which reeked of favouritism and bias.

I agree with all of those guys bar the much maligned Mark Carter. Sure he was no Jones/Kronfeld/McCaw...probably not even a Holah or Masoe but as a player I thought he wasn't too bad. He had a great bledisloe test in 91 ( I think ) in tandem with Jones. I can't fathom why he was singled out so much as a player people loved to hate.

[AledforPM]

MN5 said:

Red Beard said:

BartMan said:

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That's a bit harsh. Bernie might have looked ridiculous but he was a class player. He was regularly in the AB squads from 87-91 and thats no mean feat.

Perhaps being in the Auckland squad over that same peroiod of time may have helped a little too eh... Has he been playing for Otago or Wellington in that time, I think he would not have got a look in..

Just my opinion though!

Mine to! If guys like Bernie McCahill, Shayne Philpott, Jason Hewett or Mak Carter were playing for the likes of Southland, Taranaki or King Country they would never have been test All Black. They were selected because of combinations formed with senior All Blacks, not individual merit. even the honourable BJ Lochore selected one of his own Wairarapa Bush prop Robbie McLean for the 1987 tour of Japan, a leftfield call, which reeked of favouritism and bias.

I agree with all of those guys bar the much maligned Mark Carter. Sure he was no Jones/Kronfeld/McCaw...probably not even a Holah or Masoe but as a player I thought he wasn't too bad. He had a great bledisloe test in 91 ( I think ) in tandem with Jones. I can't fathom why he was singled out so much as a player people loved to hate.

Probably his ridiculous hair and tape combo...

[Red Beard]

MN5 said:

Red Beard said:

BartMan said:

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That's a bit harsh. Bernie might have looked ridiculous but he was a class player. He was regularly in the AB squads from 87-91 and thats no mean feat.

Perhaps being in the Auckland squad over that same peroiod of time may have helped a little too eh... Has he been playing for Otago or Wellington in that time, I think he would not have got a look in..

Just my opinion though!

Mine to! If guys like Bernie McCahill, Shayne Philpott, Jason Hewett or Mak Carter were playing for the likes of Southland, Taranaki or King Country they would never have been test All Black. They were selected because of combinations formed with senior All Blacks, not individual merit. even the honourable BJ Lochore selected one of his own Wairarapa Bush prop Robbie McLean for the 1987 tour of Japan, a leftfield call, which reeked of favouritism and bias.

I agree with all of those guys bar the much maligned Mark Carter. Sure he was no Jones/Kronfeld/McCaw...probably not even a Holah or Masoe but as a player I thought he wasn't too bad. He had a great bledisloe test in 91 ( I think ) in tandem with Jones. I can't fathom why he was singled out so much as a player people loved to hate.

Im not saying he wasnt a very good player, I just dont think he would have made it from a 'more rural' province where the style of game he played may not have been favoured by certain selectors.

[MN5]

AledforPM said:

MN5 said:

Red Beard said:

BartMan said:

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That's a bit harsh. Bernie might have looked ridiculous but he was a class player. He was regularly in the AB squads from 87-91 and thats no mean feat.

Perhaps being in the Auckland squad over that same peroiod of time may have helped a little too eh... Has he been playing for Otago or Wellington in that time, I think he would not have got a look in..

Just my opinion though!

Mine to! If guys like Bernie McCahill, Shayne Philpott, Jason Hewett or Mak Carter were playing for the likes of Southland, Taranaki or King Country they would never have been test All Black. They were selected because of combinations formed with senior All Blacks, not individual merit. even the honourable BJ Lochore selected one of his own Wairarapa Bush prop Robbie McLean for the 1987 tour of Japan, a leftfield call, which reeked of favouritism and bias.

I agree with all of those guys bar the much maligned Mark Carter. Sure he was no Jones/Kronfeld/McCaw...probably not even a Holah or Masoe but as a player I thought he wasn't too bad. He had a great bledisloe test in 91 ( I think ) in tandem with Jones. I can't fathom why he was singled out so much as a player people loved to hate.

Probably his ridiculous hair and tape combo...

Yeah but based on that Merhts bowl cut, Jonahs tuft, Ma'as eyeliner, Jerrys guinness hair do and Eatons beard should be ripe for the picking.

Now I think about it I sometimes wonder if Carter used to look in the mirror and say to himself "I'm gonna make myself look as ridiculous as I possibly can...."

[Billy Webb]

One of my enduring memories of Carling as a rugby player was the 1995 RWC semi against NZ.
He seemed to be the only England rugby player still giving it 100% right till the end.
Scored a couple of tries if memory doesn't fail me.

Great article, and seems like a good bloke to share a couple of jars with.

[mogwai]

Carter gets singled out because he kept Paul Henerson out, and hendrson was a much better 7.

Stank of Hart picking Carter & Grizz going "fuck ya then, I give you - Shayne Philpott!"

Had the combo of 2 coaches from the big 2 teams & the 2 teams loathed each other as did the coaches.

Of course a year later we got Laurie Fucking Mains with Richard Turner & Greg Cooper & suddenly Hart picking Carter didn't look so bad...

Funny now when people bitch about the selectors to think this is probably the first period we've had in 30 years without fucked up provincial bias picking half the team.

Rancid Schnitzel said:

John Gallagher played for Wellington and he got selected for the ABs so why not Bernie?

the same Gallagher who put the feelers out to league when he got the tip off Ridge was Harts prefered 15? Much the same way Johnny Schu had when it became clear regardless how he played he was gonna be dumped. Early 90's were a grim time if you were an Aucklander, ask Buck Shelford.

[Nepia]

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the same Gallagher who put the feelers out to league when he got the tip off Ridge was Harts prefered 15? Much the same way Johnny Schu had when it became clear regardless how he played he was gonna be dumped. Early 90's were a grim time if you were an Aucklander, ask Buck Shelford.

Some revisionist history going on there Mogwai. Kipper went to league in 1989, Hart wasn't in the frame for the AB coaching position. He didn't become involved until 1991 - Kipper must have seen deep into the future and figured out what was going to happen in 1991. Schuster went when he was the clear no.1 second five in the country.

The proper answer to that question is that Gallagher was pure class, Bernie wouldn't have got the 12 position off Schuster (in the Wellington team).

[Luigi]

Billy Webb said:

One of my enduring memories of Carling as a rugby player was the 1995 RWC semi against NZ.
He seemed to be the only England rugby player still giving it 100% right till the end.
Scored a couple of tries if memory doesn't fail me.

Great article, and seems like a good bloke to share a couple of jars with.

Possibly one of his defining moments in an England shirt. He was one of the few (only) English players to bring down Lomu 1on1 and also chip kicked him for a try IIRC.

We won the second half that day - maybe against an AB side that might have taken its foot off the pedal (depends on which Kiwi you talk to and which way the wind is blowing at the time).

[Bones]

Probably should've only played the second half.