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#1 Razbra

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 07:52 PM

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Veteran frontrower Steve Price is adamant he wants to continue playing representative rugby league next year.

Price, who turns 36 at the start of the new NRL season in March, said the New Zealand Warriors hadn't talked to him about the issue, but State of Origin and Test football remained a goal for him.

"Of course, when I'm playing in the NRL I want to play for Queensland and Australia," he said.

"You have to be able to play the footy to do that. From the Warriors' perspective, you'd say you want that to happen, wouldn't you? If I'm not able to play the football, I won't be in the Warriors' team anyway. I can't see it being a negative for the club."

In a shock move by the Warriors last month, Price was replaced as skipper by second rower Simon Mannering.

While the club have said otherwise, there have been suggestions that Price's wish to continue with representative football might have been a reason for the decision.

Injuries and State of Origin commitments limited Price to 14 NRL appearances this year and Ivan Cleary indicated in August that Price's representative commitments would be discussed with him.



However, Price said on Thursday that, of the matches he missed through injury, only one was because of representative duty - when he was stood down after being floored by a punch in Origin 3.

"So I don't know what the big issue about injuries from playing rep footy is," he said.

"I've missed one game in the last 10 years from rep footy and that was this year.
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Although it's been five weeks since the captaincy change, it was still an unusual sight when Mannering rather than Price took the microphone during a function the Warriors attended at which Vodafone announced it was continuing as principal sponsor until the end of 2014.

There also remained a tone of disappointment in Price's reply when he was asked about losing the job, which ended eight years as a club skipper, firstly with the Bulldogs and then the Warriors, but he said it was a case now looking ahead.

"It's something I enjoyed doing, but they made a decision so let's move on," he said.

"It doesn't change how I approach next season. You have to play as well as you can every week. Now I'll be able to do that with a few less worries and just get on and have a good year."

Injury meant Price wasn't available for selection for the end-of-season Four Nations tournament in England and France and he had heel surgery instead.

However, he then picked up an infection while on holiday, which has meant an adjustment to his pre-season training regime, but he expected to be at 100 percent for the trial matches in February.

"While the infection is a setback, the staff are doing a great job," he said.

"I've still been able to do a lot of training and the plan is to be ready when everything is ready to go."

Im sorry but that is a bit of bull shit. You still give it everything without playing rep footy. All the Kiwi guys who aren't able to play S of O do!

Its selfish and I think it's fairly clear why he's lost the captaincy. As for the stuff about his injuries not being a result of rep games, bollocks! He's 35 he should be putting the club that pays him first. Any injury caused by rep football is one too many when you're in his position.

He is making it increasingly hard to like him now.
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 08:37 PM

Still sounds bitter that he lost the captaincy, didn't see Wiki moaning about not being captain despite being the Kiwis captain and more experienced at the time.

Hopefully Mannering is the type of guy who lifts with the extra pressure on his shoulders (e.g benji) and Moon can play to his potential, he showed glimpses last year

Interesting to see how Seymour goes also.

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 10:16 PM

WTF - good on him for wanting to play rep footy, that's the flippin goal of playing. If it was a Kiwi saying the same thing everyone would be supportive.
The Kiwi guys all play the ANZAC test and no one complains, plus the club is in an Oz competition so has to abide by its rules and the SoO is part of it, the Warriors know that when going in eah year. Just as they know they'll lose players to the ANZAC test team, although the NRL usually gives them a pass from playing in that week.

All he's said is that he wants to be selected for rep footy and he's disappointed about losing captaincy. Big deal, at least he's honest and isn't jabbering away in typical cliched talk.

Hopefully Mannering is a good captain and plays a bucket load better than he did this year.
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 11:12 PM

He is still probably being payed $450k at least making him our highest paid player. He automatically loses 4 games through rep footy, is making a habit of losing another 10 through injury and has been playing like crap for the rest of them. It was all well and good when he had the best season for a front rower of all time in 2007 - but much like running backs in the NFL they plummet quickly.

Have some dignity and ask to break your contract and head to the UK.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 07:12 AM

I was interested to find out the other day from someone who did some promo work with Price, that he is pretty much a chain smoker. I really didn't think athletes at his level would smoke, but especially him because his fitness is so good.

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 08:05 AM

Nepia said:

WTF - good on him for wanting to play rep footy, that's the flippin goal of playing. If it was a Kiwi saying the same thing everyone would be supportive.
The Kiwi guys all play the ANZAC test and no one complains, plus the club is in an Oz competition so has to abide by its rules and the SoO is part of it, the Warriors know that when going in eah year. Just as they know they'll lose players to the ANZAC test team, although the NRL usually gives them a pass from playing in that week.

All he's said is that he wants to be selected for rep footy and he's disappointed about losing captaincy. Big deal, at least he's honest and isn't jabbering away in typical cliched talk.

Hopefully Mannering is a good captain and plays a bucket load better than he did this year.

No the goal of playing is to win the Championship. Everything else is a bonus. Remember team sport? You put your mates first and the overall cause first! In what is likely his final season he has chosen himself over the club. That smacks of selfishness and surprisingly immaturity. One season left to win his club a title. The guy has done everything there is to do while at the warriors except win a title and he has made his intentions clear here by making the clubs goal secondary to his own.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 08:12 AM

You've read far too much into that story. Nepia is right, you play to get to the highest level you possibly can
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 08:34 AM

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You've read far too much into that story. Nepia is right, you play to get to the highest level you possibly can

Come on when you're 35, its your last tilt and you're coming off the back of an injury plagued season you throw your lot in and you give it all to your club.

Personally I think you guys aren't reading enough into the story. Seriously if he has one goal left surely its to win a bloody title. The problem is Price doesn't care about titles as much as he does S 0f O. The plus side of that and this detracts from my own argument is that he is likely as good as he is because he trains for for S of O. But flip side again is that it takes too much out of him once its over.

Should say I still think the Warriors are better with him in any capacity but I just wish the guy would put the rep stuff to the side and go all out for his club. Last season as a gauge you'd be hard pressed to disagree rep footy didn't take its toll. The claim that only one game was disrupted is rubbish. The extra workload took its toll.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 08:50 AM

So is the goal of Dan Carter to get Canterbury the ANZC title? What about Jonny Wilkinson? Should his goal be for Toulon to win the t14?
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 08:54 AM

I haven't been paying attention to this story, but is he getting criticised for wanting to play for his state and country? That's just bizarre.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 09:12 AM

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So is the goal of Dan Carter to get Canterbury the ANZC title? What about Jonny Wilkinson? Should his goal be for Toulon to win the t14?

Is Dan Carter 35? At the end of his career? No. Is Wilko playing a sport where the only form of meaningful rep footy is purely for Australians? No.

Can't compare the two sports when the major goals are different. Union has meaningful rep football for all involved. League doesn't. The major goals in both Super League and NRL is to win a championship. It shouldn't be but the International game is a joke.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 09:20 AM

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I haven't been paying attention to this story, but is he getting criticised for wanting to play for his state and country? That's just bizarre.

Why is it bizarre? He's old he's paid shit loads and in his final season. I would think getting their moneys worth would be fairly high priority at the Warriors. I would think Price would want to go out on a winning note he has invested a fair chunk of the last decade at the club. Look if he was 25 or even 30 ok go for it Steve but he's not.

If he goes and plays origin and all's well that ends well then yeah its a rant on my part but if he goes and gets himself injured or there is a marked decline in form as a result of rep footy much like this year then I think my opinion holds water.

But Im a fan of Price(just not a fan of this decision) so I hope that he just keeps on trucking.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 09:21 AM

You ask any New South Welshman or Queenslander what they would prefer. Their team winning the Grand Final or The State of Origin. I could gaurantee that the SoO is of higher importance.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 09:30 AM

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You ask any New South Welshman or Queenslander what they would prefer. Their team winning the Grand Final or The State of Origin. I could gaurantee that the SoO is of higher importance.

I don't think so mate. When was the last time you saw a guy crying after he lost an origin game? When was the last time you saw a guy cry after winning an origin game?

Plenty of guys have played origin who haven't won a NRL final. One is rearer than the other. I guarantee Steve Price would trade any of his SoO games to have played in the Bulldogs grand final win he missed.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 09:32 AM

We'll just have to beg to differ. SoO is much more important I reckon.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 09:46 AM

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We'll just have to beg to differ. SoO is much more important I reckon.

It would be in keeping with the status quo....
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 09:58 AM

The selfish side of me wants him to focus on his club. But on the flip side Price, even at age 35, is still one of the best props in the game and if he wants to play representative footy, and keeps getting selected, than all power to him.

The Warriors have one of the best props of all time in their team and the downside is he will be selected for rep footy.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 10:12 AM

Mannering is a loser, perfect fit for a club with a history of losing

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 10:19 AM

Razbra: It seems you're holding Price to some weird standard that other players aren't held to - seemingly because of his age. Players get injured no matter what there age is, Mannering could get injured in the ANZAC test and ruin the Warriors chances because of his selfish decision to play rep football.
Are we going to ban Brad Thorn from rep rugby because of his age? Are we going to ban Conrad Smith because of his tendency to get injured?

FFS Price has been outstanding in every other season, last year he was just more injury prone. At the least you guys can give him a break for all the effort he's put in over the years, not just on field but off field where he's been a damn good promoter of the game here in NZ.

I think you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. I'm genuinely confused.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 10:39 AM

I think some of you are being a bit unfair... He has only expressed that he wants to keep representing Qld and the convicts. Let him aspire to that, it will only benefit the Warriors throughout the season if he gets into good form for those selections.

Besides, Pricey is a very likeable character... Good on ya Steve!
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 10:43 AM

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Razbra: It seems you're holding Price to some weird standard that other players aren't held to - seemingly because of his age. Players get injured no matter what there age is, Mannering could get injured in the ANZAC test and ruin the Warriors chances because of his selfish decision to play rep football.
Are we going to ban Brad Thorn from rep rugby because of his age? Are we going to ban Conrad Smith because of his tendency to get injured? Read back in the thread comparing union to league is pointless

FFS Price has been outstanding in every other season, last year he was just more injury prone. At the least you guys can give him a break for all the effort he's put in over the years, not just on field but off field where he's been a damn good promoter of the game here in NZ.

I think you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. I'm genuinely confused.

I think you'll find Im not. It is a generally accepted practice to give away rep footy in your advancing years to concentrate on club football. Using his age as a marker isn't weird either. It's generally accepted practice to drop players in favour of younger ones because of what the younger player will ultimately offer in the long run. Price has one year, probably, left and what he is able to offer his club or EMPLOYERS is questionable here. Again in rep footy he has nothing left to prove. He has done it all so...

The comparison between Mannering and Price is ridiculous. Unless the injury to Mannering is career ending the young fella gets injured he can come back and make up for lost time as well as the investment as he has years on his side. Price gets injured and what? $450000 pissed up a wall.

What is clear to me is that Steve Price likely sees the writing on the wall. The warriors aren't going to win diddly squat this year and as a result he wants something to go out with a bang with. I understand that but I don't agree with it.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:00 AM

Razbra said:

Nepia said:

Razbra: It seems you're holding Price to some weird standard that other players aren't held to - seemingly because of his age. Players get injured no matter what there age is, Mannering could get injured in the ANZAC test and ruin the Warriors chances because of his selfish decision to play rep football.
Are we going to ban Brad Thorn from rep rugby because of his age? Are we going to ban Conrad Smith because of his tendency to get injured? Read back in the thread comparing union to league is pointless

FFS Price has been outstanding in every other season, last year he was just more injury prone. At the least you guys can give him a break for all the effort he's put in over the years, not just on field but off field where he's been a damn good promoter of the game here in NZ.

I think you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. I'm genuinely confused.

I think you'll find Im not. It is a generally accepted practice to give away rep footy in your advancing years to concentrate on club football. Using his age as a marker isn't weird either. It's generally accepted practice to drop players in favour of younger ones because of what the younger player will ultimately offer in the long run. Price has one year, probably, left and what he is able to offer his club or EMPLOYERS is questionable here. Again in rep footy he has nothing left to prove. He has done it all so...

The comparison between Mannering and Price is ridiculous. Unless the injury to Mannering is career ending the young fella gets injured he can come back and make up for lost time as well as the investment as he has years on his side. Price gets injured and what? $450000 pissed up a wall.

What is clear to me is that Steve Price likely sees the writing on the wall. The warriors aren't going to win diddly squat this year and as a result he wants something to go out with a bang with. I understand that but I don't agree with it.
Crap, a player can retire from rep football when they feel like it, some do it for a better contract, it's not a given they have to retire from rep football. If the club wants to drop him in favour of a younger one then they should just do that.

I'd say that Price has already repaid that investment - his PR for the club over the last few years has been outstanding considering how shit they've been. How is it any different anyway aside from the value? Mannering gets injured and it's $300k pissed up a wall for the year instead of $450k, the situation is the same. Plus if Price is in origin form then that's the only way the dross that is the Warriors are going to get carried into the finals.

Still think you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:02 AM

Wow Razbra, that is fucked. To get up a guy because he still wants to play at the highest level, especially at an advanced age? I couldn't disagree with you more, and actually find it hard to see where you are coming from. Generally accepted practice? By whom? Most get cut, if Price is good enough to get selected again, then fucking good on him.

Should the Warriors no longer target Origin players for transfer? Or ban them once they get here? Great recruitment policy. "Come to Auckland, end your rep career" (actually, i think that is South's)
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:05 AM

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We'll just have to beg to differ. SoO is much more important I reckon.

Different strokes for different folks. You'd like to think that after four on the trot that it would be getting a little old hat for Price and his desire for a second Grand Final would be burning a little brighter. He lost one in 1998 and couldn't play in the 2004 win so that close but no cigar thing should be creeping in.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:12 AM

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Wow Razbra, that is fucked. To get up a guy because he still wants to play at the highest level, especially at an advanced age? I couldn't disagree with you more, and actually find it hard to see where you are coming from. Generally accepted practice? By whom? Most get cut, if Price is good enough to get selected again, then fucking good on him.

Should the Warriors no longer target Origin players for transfer? Or ban them once they get here? Great recruitment policy. "Come to Auckland, end your rep career" (actually, i think that is South's)

He shouldn't if he can't fulfil the job that he is actually being paid for. You get the feeling that if Price played 3 games for Queensland this year and nothing else it would be a successful season. Contrast this with the class of Darren Lockyer who realises that he no longer has it in him to serve both his state and club loyally so has retired from rep football. Being able to play rep football isn't just about playing that 80 minutes on a Wednesday - it's about backing up the next week too.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:19 AM

I'm not a NSW or QLDer ... but they would and do place a grand final win higher in importance than a SoO win ...
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:21 AM

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mariner4life said:

Wow Razbra, that is fucked. To get up a guy because he still wants to play at the highest level, especially at an advanced age? I couldn't disagree with you more, and actually find it hard to see where you are coming from. Generally accepted practice? By whom? Most get cut, if Price is good enough to get selected again, then fucking good on him.

Should the Warriors no longer target Origin players for transfer? Or ban them once they get here? Great recruitment policy. "Come to Auckland, end your rep career" (actually, i think that is South's)

He shouldn't if he can't fulfil the job that he is actually being paid for. Then no player should be allowed to play rep football in case they are injured and don't fulfil the job they were paid for? xzxscratch_one-s_head You get the feeling that if Price played 3 games for Queensland this year and nothing else it would be a successful season. Contrast this with the class of Darren Lockyer who realises that he no longer has it in him to serve both his state and club loyally so has retired from rep football. Being able to play rep football isn't just about playing that 80 minutes on a Wednesday - it's about backing up the next week too.
How do you know he can't fulfil the job he's being paid for? He's managed both every year when he's played rep football while at the Warriors except for last year when he was out longer - so what, it can happen to any player.
Lockyer could have made the same decision last year but he chose to stay on and play rep football. I bet all those Broncos fans wouldn't have been having hissy fits about his decision to play rep football this year.
Your putting feelings into Price that you think - not him. Nothing about the guy since his coming to the Warriors has suggested that he's not committed to the club.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:25 AM

I gotta agree with Razbra.

I think the rugby comparisons are moot for the reasons given. And I think the circumstances around Price are a lot different than to say Mannering, or any of the other Warrior Kiwis.

I think we've seen the toll that club, state and country commitments are having on Price over the past couple of years where he has had far from vintage form. Another year on, I doubt hes going to relight that 07 fire.

Another State of Origin win, another Anzac test win, would these REALLY be valued that highly by Price when he has achieved them so many times? I would have thought that a final season giving it his all for his club would have been preferable. Of course hes entitled to put his state/country ahead of his club, I just think hes been a little selfish in doing so.

It would have sent a fantastic message to the club and his teammates as well, if he forfeited his rep duty it would have shown tremendous belief in their ability to win a premiership. Would have been a real fillip.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:29 AM

This is Steve Fucking Price. He has been worth more to the Warriors than they have paid him, or will pay him. He has been fucking excellent on and off the field since he got here. He missed games last year, people miss games every fucking year, rep or no rep. Injuries happen, and as he says, his only rep injury was getting knocked out in a fight!

I keep seeing on this thread statements like "A GF should be more important than playing for Qld" why are they mutually exclusive? Half of Melbourne played Origin last year, they did alright. If Steve Price playing every game is the only way we can make the GF, i think we are fucked before we start.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:32 AM

Nepia said:

roatated said:

mariner4life said:

Wow Razbra, that is fucked. To get up a guy because he still wants to play at the highest level, especially at an advanced age? I couldn't disagree with you more, and actually find it hard to see where you are coming from. Generally accepted practice? By whom? Most get cut, if Price is good enough to get selected again, then fucking good on him.

Should the Warriors no longer target Origin players for transfer? Or ban them once they get here? Great recruitment policy. "Come to Auckland, end your rep career" (actually, i think that is South's)

He shouldn't if he can't fulfil the job that he is actually being paid for. Then no player should be allowed to play rep football in case they are injured and don't fulfil the job they were paid for? xzxscratch_one-s_head You get the feeling that if Price played 3 games for Queensland this year and nothing else it would be a successful season. Contrast this with the class of Darren Lockyer who realises that he no longer has it in him to serve both his state and club loyally so has retired from rep football. Being able to play rep football isn't just about playing that 80 minutes on a Wednesday - it's about backing up the next week too.
How do you know he can't fulfil the job he's being paid for? He's managed both every year when he's played rep football while at the Warriors except for last year when he was out longer - so what, it can happen to any player.
Lockyer could have made the same decision last year but he chose to stay on and play rep football. I bet all those Broncos fans wouldn't have been having hissy fits about his decision to play rep football this year.
Your putting feelings into Price that you think - not him. Nothing about the guy since his coming to the Warriors has suggested that he's not committed to the club.

He didn't last year he missed half the season and when he did play he was mediocre. What's more his job is to be a leading front rower in the competition, he is paid accordingly. In 2008 he was totally flat after Origin when the Warriors really needed him to drive them home through the finals (luckily they got their by other means). At 36 if he doesn't that playing Origin he is going take a toll on him that the Warriors will have to deal with he is crazy.

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